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You are right!

Not again, How many times and how many ways do we have to say NO. That park was donated to the city and I believe that part of that agreement was that it was that it would not be used for private enterprise.

The only benefit that the city leaders can see is tax dollars. It will not help the neighborhood. It will not help the downtown. Give it up city. We want to keep our beautiful park.

What ever happened to the proposal to build the baseball park for them in Pewaukee, on the corner of Highway 74 and Lindsay Rd?

I know thats been talked about for a few years now.

Michael - Pewaukee bought that property for youth sports. The city said no to pro-baseball.

I blogged it here.

http://headlessblogger.blogspot.com/2007/02/re-hello-mcfly-anybody-home-huh-think.html

I think parking could be solved and the river is a feature nowadays (McCovey’s Cove and the new park in St. Pete would be close to the bay.

But as you point out in #3 Frame Park especially the river walk would be divided.

What was the problem with the Waukesha county fair/expo location?

WCTC doesn’t look that bad, but as you say, it is Pewaukee and far from the downtown which is what the mayor & some on the council are worried about.

It’s only a little over 350 feet to the left field fence, as I remember. That’s too short for anything other than amateur baseball. You can’t move the fence out farther because of the river. The only other option is to use the Fenway Park option and raise a wall 40 ft tall. That wouldn’t look very attractive.

I am so happy that Waukesha wants the team. Please keep it away from Pewaukee.

Michael - The stadium proposal was rejected by Pewaukee because the Lindsay Road property was purchased for a youth sports complex. Not to mention that the property is home to the protected and beautiful Butler Garter Snake.

Not In My Front Yard.

I wiped out the entire species a couple of weeks ago. My bad.

I think the idea at least warrants some consideration by the City. I would like to see more details before I have an opinion on it.

Parking will be a concern. With attendance estimated at 1500 per game they would probably need around 500 parking spaces (average of 3 persons per car).

I think some of the parking could be solved by the transit garage and downtown lots working with a shuttle. This has the advantage of getting folks downtown before and after games, which I think is the major driving force behind the Frame Park venue.

Local folks used their property for parking during the dear departed River Fest (granted not the same as baseball, but don’t underestimate entrepeneurs).

As Huck says, 350 feet is short, although I think they have a few extra feet before it completely cuts off the river walk, but I’m sure a Green Monster would not go over well. And to have stands around the plate, I think you’d have to go almost to White Rock. Not sure what this would do to those beautiful and popular formal gardens.

I’d love to see baseball in Waukesha, but I’ll have to see what the study comes up with.

I think that people need to look at the fact that this isn’t minor league baseball, its not even semi-pro. It is amateur baseball. I don’t think the modifications to the stadium would be that dramatic (unlike previous proposals). The crowds would be around 1,5000 fans which really isn’t a lot of seats. I agree with Dean…lets see the details and the results of the study before everyone decides this is a bad idea.

I did look at some stadium diagrams for other northwoods teams and it seems that the “footprint” for these stadiums isn’t as big as you would think.

White Rock Avenue has on-street parking. Also, White Rock Elementary School and Trinity Lutheran Church have parking lots that could usually be used for gameday parking, and could be used to raise a little money. In Madison (where I’m from) schools and churches charge for parking during major sporting events.

One more thing: Go Mallards!

C’mon. Your #1 reason against bringing in a team is the distance of the fence? Too close? You can’t be serious. Tell that to the Boston Red Sox and the Yankees. 298 ft and 314 ft. respectively down the right field lines. No “Big” walls in right field at those parks.

For the record, Frame Park is 300-305 ft. down the lines, 352 ft. to the alleys, and 380 ft. to dead center, according to the measurements hanging on the OF walls. Frame is perfect for the Northwoods. The dimensions at Frame are actually bigger than some of the parks that are in the league now!!

Also, if you actually bothered to get out from behind your computer and take a close look at the baseball diamond at Frame, you would see that there is 10-15ft. between the fence and the lightpost throughout most of the outfield. The fences could be moved back 10 ft. (from left center to right center)without hampering anyone’s precious “park experience.”

Dividing the Riverwalk? Are you kidding? Have you seen any plans? Are you the architect. The city has made it perfectly clear that sectioning off or dividing the Riverwalk is not an option. Get a clue.

Closing off the Parking Lot? Please tell everyone how many times per year you actually park in the lot located East of the ball diamond. How many times do you possibly go look at the flower garden? If you’re going to use the River Walk, the kid’s play area, the volleyball courts, etc. there are other parking lots that are CLOSER!!

How can the park handle the parking? Nobody seems to care about that when 10,000 people jammed into the park for River Fest, or when 8,000 people take part in the Breast Cancer Walk, or thousands more attend Fiesta Waukesha. Again, hollow argument by people like yourself that truly don’t have a reason to be against this…other than to complain for the sake of complaining. You have a county parking garage, that you paid for with tax $, that sits empty practically year round…just acrosst the river, you have Carroll University and there main lots, sitting empty all summer long, etc. Parking is a problem only if you want it to be a problem. It’s simply not true.

Who benefits? Besides the Northwoods team, how about Catholic Memorial High School, Waukesha South, Waukesha North, and Carroll University. They all play their home games at Frame Park and currently the ball diamond is a mess. Countless players have sustained injuries over the past few years because the city doesn’t properly maintain the park. The Northwoods team will maintain the park (saving you tax $) and providing the young players in the city a better place to play baseball.

Please tell all of us why that is a bad thing? You can’t!

There is no reason to be against this other than selfishness and lack of knowledge. The flower garden will be ok. The kiddy play area will be ok. The river walk will be ok. Your access and parking to the park will be ok.

This is going to happen and it’s good thing!!

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This baseball park should and will probably happen.It’s a matter of time and details being worked out. As a current resident of the area,and former common council member, I am excited about this plan.This park will offer a lot to our youth and families, and then finally, we can work on getting the railroad overpass project on Moreland Blvd near the park pushed through.